tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post1948468703151330863..comments2024-03-22T13:25:57.090-04:00Comments on Cephalove: The Myth of the Humboldt SquidMike Mikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07650701412022872445noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-65710901973831214182020-11-19T20:15:20.417-05:002020-11-19T20:15:20.417-05:00This is a great article on Humboldt squid by a Uni...This is a great article on Humboldt squid by a University of Rhode Island biologist Brad Seibel;a leading expert on the species https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090723113516.htm#:~:text=Humboldt%20squid%20feed%20in%20surface,very%20low%2C%22%20Seibel%20said.&text=Seibel%20said%20that%20while%20the,man%2Deaters%20they%20are%20not..........https://www.blogger.com/profile/10928452355976955531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-11276315353336758132016-11-15T10:32:03.560-05:002016-11-15T10:32:03.560-05:00Well, yeah. Felids have rather consistent behavior...Well, yeah. Felids have rather consistent behaviors across the family. <br /><br />As to the graphic description of you burly-men and the Humboldt squid, how ever did you escape their disemboweling clutches? How many people, approximately, do you know of that were dragged to their briny deaths? Can you post some links to credible news articles, or, at least to an online version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea?<br /><br />http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/09/octopus-attack-memorial/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-74599360716813529642014-04-04T11:59:59.209-04:002014-04-04T11:59:59.209-04:00These animals are the real deal and should not be ...These animals are the real deal and should not be toyed with. They are aggressive and capable of diselboweling you in an instant.<br /><br />To try and hypothesize their behavior based on smaller squid in their species is utterly absurd. Would you based your 'scientific analysis' of the behavior of a lion based on a house cat? That is close to your analogy of knowing Humboldt squid behavior studying smaller species. Ridiculous. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-8277225860413774852013-05-26T19:57:28.562-04:002013-05-26T19:57:28.562-04:00For a real look at the Humboldt.. up close.. sugge...For a real look at the Humboldt.. up close.. suggest diving with them.. when they start changing colors and you feel that first attack.. try to remember that it's not really a threat.. by that time it will have started dragging you to the bottom where.. well.. you will be dinnerUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04431546705946067318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-41506832001591194632013-05-26T19:54:14.188-04:002013-05-26T19:54:14.188-04:00Having had an actual run in with a humboldt.. I ca...Having had an actual run in with a humboldt.. I can assure you that your story here is fiction. It is without a doubt one of the most aggressive animals I've ever encountered, enough so that I think twice now about diving, and would absolutely not dive in SoCal without taking due caution to ensure I don't run into one. While you may try to rationalize that this is not an absolutely deadly animal in the water, I'll nicely tell you it can crush your arm with its beak with east.. rip you open from stem to stern, and drag you to the bottom where you won't likely be heard from again. Without doubting attitude.. I suggest strongly you stay out of the water and remain an armchair adventurer.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04431546705946067318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-51868293705160069402012-01-09T15:46:05.723-05:002012-01-09T15:46:05.723-05:00I remember when A Humboldt squid that washed up on...I remember when A Humboldt squid that washed up on a Santa Barbara shoreline , I really like this animal because Although Humboldt squid have a reputation of being aggressive, there is some disagreement on this subjectViagra Online without prescriptionhttp://www.mutualpharmacy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-57686204957036939412010-07-24T19:57:14.168-04:002010-07-24T19:57:14.168-04:00hey mike, i keep going back and forth with myself ...hey mike, i keep going back and forth with myself about whether the media hype is a good or bad thing. demonizing critters makes them charismatic and exciting, but also causes a lot of fishermen to up their game for sport. i have no doubt that actual studies on these guys arent too far away though, with all of the attention theyve been getting. <br /><br />re: video of behaviour, i see where youre coming from but think you have an excessively pure and romantic notion of science. the range of permissable evidence is broad, and in order to draw firm conclusions, yes, you need an appropriate test. but a video is an objective, repeatable measure of behaviour and is evidence, even if it is not a complete scientific conclusion. for example, mark normans paper on the mimic octopus was based on repeated observation and included a couple videos to document what had been observed. videos provide the type of evidence that creates rationale for future studies, and it IS evidence, just may not be proof or the whole story about the context of the behaviour. it is no less valid to record interesting than typical behaviour, as long as you realize (which i think most do) that what youre filming doesnt encompass the whole range of possible behaviours. <br /><br />love the blog, keep up the good work!shaneehttp://seascience.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-26330469651406954602010-07-22T23:58:51.535-04:002010-07-22T23:58:51.535-04:00Thanks for all the comments, guys!
@shanee: You&...Thanks for all the comments, guys!<br /><br />@shanee: You're probably right - if anything, more exposure in popular media is good for those who might become interested in cephalopods. It's just frustrating when a topic one likes is commonly squished down to a blurb in popular media. It's also frustrating when popular culture comes to shape people's ideas about some aspect of biology to the extent that it replaces actual biological knowledge (imagine how many times aquarium staff's explanations that it's actually a "clownfish", not a "Nemofish" frustratingly fall on deaf ears.)<br /><br />Also, I have to take issue with your statement that videos of behavior are scientific evidence. They are data, which might be used to test hypotheses in studies whose conclusions would be scientific evidence. Even if one did these studies, unless the videos were taken very systematically and with well-defined sampling criteria (which doesn't appear to be the case when viewing the various footage that people use to support the image of the Humboldt as "bloodthirsty", etc.) they would be of little use for drawing conclusions about typical behavior - only that behavior which people thought was interesting enough to edit into a short video for public release. <br /><br />I'd be very, very excited at the prospect of a Humboldt squid ethogram, and I think we're not too far away from having the technology and know-how to do it. I'll keep my eyes peeled.Mike Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650701412022872445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-5758602609123593182010-07-22T10:19:26.729-04:002010-07-22T10:19:26.729-04:00Lou Zeidberg's email address involves "sq...Lou Zeidberg's email address involves "squidberg." LOL. So much of the Humboldt research comes out of that Gilly lab<br /><br />Great post. For a while I wanted to study these guys - their recent further-extending northward migrations intrigued me, seemed to be a perfect venue for studying the impacts of the addition of a high-trophic level predator entering the food chain, with implications that it's related to climatic change in some way. But there's just not that much funding out there for squid research, I've found. Sigh.<br /><br />Love your blog generally, btw. I've got a little cephalove myself...<br /><br />HannahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-13126737821229162562010-07-21T21:31:29.044-04:002010-07-21T21:31:29.044-04:00hey mike, a couple things here...1. video of behav...hey mike, a couple things here...1. video of behavior IS scientific evidence, 2. anecdotal information from people with extensive natural history knowledge is valuable too, 3. as carl sagan says, we shouldnt be afraid to speculate, we just have to be careful to distinguish speculation from fact, 4. humboldt squid are terrifying and ferociously deadly...to their PREY!! my general perspective on this subject is that there is a huge amount of anecdotal accounts of the aggression of these animals towards humans, and even without empirical evidence, i think the sensationalism is as merited as sensationalism ever is. perhaps the drama weve come to expect from the mass media will inspire some student somewhere to learn more about these fascinating critters.shaneehttp://seascience.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-41985010439157622812010-07-20T23:08:19.359-04:002010-07-20T23:08:19.359-04:00The citation generator was failing to load (for no...The citation generator was failing to load (for no reason that I could see, though there must have been one.) I'd just see a blank page when I tried to load it, or some input fields would be missing. After messing with that for a while (I never got it to work consistently) I got frustrated and got the citations through it as quickly as I could (hence the copy-and-paste artefact of all caps). I think it's the computer I was working on, not the site, so I'm planning on doing my citations on a different machine in the future.Mike Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650701412022872445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-30396110081697350062010-07-20T13:53:01.676-04:002010-07-20T13:53:01.676-04:00Hey, thanks a lot for doing this post. Very soberi...Hey, thanks a lot for doing this post. Very sobering. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494280251616036004.post-24676681878508619712010-07-20T11:55:26.133-04:002010-07-20T11:55:26.133-04:00Hi Mike, I'm an admin with Researchblogging.or...Hi Mike, I'm an admin with Researchblogging.org. What sorts of trouble are you having? Feel free to email me.Kevin Zelniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14192385384151149566noreply@blogger.com